Do not use the Flatpak installation on Ubuntu 22.04

I got a few updates for Ubuntu and my Nvidea drivers. I put these updates off because I knew that Lutris was going to break if I did that. I bit the bullet and did it today, lo and behold Lutris breaks. It now for some reason can’t detect my GPU to the point that the Hardware Information tab in the Lutris settings wouldn’t pick up anything. After install/reinstall/apt update etc etc it “fixed” itself in that department without any clear reason as to how or why but still wouldn’t launch my game due to to now not picking up my runner according to the runtime logs. Uninstalled the the runner/reinstalled the runner etc etc and I just had it. I uninstalled flatpack lutris and then finally flatpack then installed Lutris normally through a .deb and suddenly all issues are gone and my game runs like a dream after cacheing shaders. Lutris picks up the GPU, the runner is suddenly present. These problems aren’t new either. It’s a whole new wrestling match wondering through help forums just to get flatpak Lutris to do things after the most minor tweaks and updates. I actually left windows because Windows likes to break itself for funnsies every other update. I shouldn’t be back in the help forums every other week while I’m not doing anything new or obscure.

tl;dr Flatpak Lutris is a nightmare on Ubuntu 22.04


Did you install it from Flathub?

Yes, I used this from the download link on Lutris.

I don’t run Ubuntu but I do know that the Nvidia drivers on your system have to match the Nvidia drivers installed through Flatpak as in version. If there is a mismatch you are going to have issues running games, I’ve never had issues with the Lutris Flatpak though.

So flatpak installations need more maintenance, I wish I knew that before installing. That’s a pain if you have multiple apps installed that way.

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No. Whenever the Nvidia driver on your system is updated there will be an update for your Flatpaks as well, so when you run “flatpak update” the nvidia package installed through Flatpak will be updated as well. I have never had to do any maintance of my Flatpaks, I just update them and that’s it.

I had an experience recently where I updated to Ubuntu 23.04, and upgraded my nvidia driver to 525, which netted me version 525.125.06. But then my Flatpak apps that depended on nvidia broke, as discussed above. No problem, I thought, I’ll just upgrade the Flatpak nvidia driver to match… but the Flatpak repo did not have 525.125.06… the newest at the time was 525.116 if I recall correctly. So it was not possible to make my Flatpak apps work again with that nvidia driver version. Maybe the Flatpak packages were simply behind, release-wise? But it doesn’t really matter why—what matters is that it is indeed more fragile than apps installed outside of Flatpak. It’s not Lutris’s fault, it’s just how Flatpak works. In my case, I actually ended up uninstalling Flatpak in frustration, and installing the needed apps in other ways.

I knew I couldn’t be the only one! There needs to be a disclaimer next to the flatpak version.

I’ve never had the Nvidia driver break with my Flatpak setup though, not on Fedora en not on EndeavourOS. So must count myself lucky but it sounds that version of the Nvidia driver was behind on Flatpak with what you ran into. Here’s a link to a reply of someone who sorted out the whole Nvidia Flatpak problem.


Hello !

I have many many problems with 3d games. Performances are horrible. At begining i was thinking it was a problem with my “old” PC. (7 years). So i buy a new Stuff for gaming…and its worst xD
It is more slow. For old game or 2D is ok, but others… I change the emulator, (Proton, wine…) and i donwload last version.

I think is a similar problem.
But i dont understand the process at do.

Can you re-explain your process @BlurayHD please ? :sweat_smile:
Also @Cphusion I try to do the line code in your link…but for the first stuff "sudo: dnf : command not found " So what can i do ?

Thanks friends ! :smiley:

Édit : also im on pop os…ubuntu variant.

Which games?

All mafia trilogy, (definitive edition, and original mafia 2), “A plague tales”. Impossible to play. Sound is horrible, and looooooow.

But is strange because i have no problem for old 3D Game (Battlefront 2). I test fallout 3 and all is ok for introduction.
For the story, 6 month ago, for no reason, battlefront runed at (litterally) 7 fps…and i thinks it was repair by uptades.

I linked to a forum post where someone explained the issue with Nvidia drivers when it comes to Flatpak, that was on the Rocky Linux forums. Rocky Linux uses dnf as package manager, if you use another Linux distribution you will need to use whatever package manager comes with the distribution that you use.

@Cphusion so i try to write with “apt” and not “dfn”.
I Read this here : Package Manager Issues (Pop!_OS) - System76 Support
Annnnnd… dont work xD (Im very very very bad to do this …)

For the first line : ```apt install -f epel-release
E: Cannot get dpkg lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend). Do you have superuser rights?"

Sudo cry on linux.

Seriously, can someone help me with these command lines?
Or if someone tells me that everything is going well with another distro with an nvidia config I’m ready.
(I’m ready to change, I was thinking about going to debian).

image (Me again)

You need to add “sudo” in front of that. What you are trying to do is not going to work because what that person doing there is installing a third-party repo for Rocky Linux, which is a rpm based repo and which won’t work for you since you are running PopOS a Deb-based distribution which is based on Ubuntu.

The whole point to what the person explains in that link is, is that Flatpak Nvidia drivers installed on your system have to match the Nvidia drivers version on your system. So normally when you do a driver update on your system and then do a flatpak update the flatpak drivers will be updated to that same version to match that version. That person was explaining that they were using the Nvidia developer repo and that the driver got update to 520.x.x which was not available for Flatpak causing a mismatch between the system Nvidia driver and the Flatpak Nvidia driver. They then manually install the system driver for the 515.x.x driver to match the Flatpak version available. Then he goes on in explaining that this isn’t a problem when using the Nvidia driver on distributions like Ubuntu(and others) because these distributions use the LTS version of the drivers in their repo

So in short it shouldn’t be a problem for you. You can just check this by looking at the driver version of the system and of the driver version for Flatpak installed.
Check system nvidia drivers: dpkg --list |grep nvidia
Check flatpak nvidia drivers: flatpak list |grep nvidia

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Thanks @Cphusion Cphusion. (i was writ "sudo but forgot to copy xD)

If i understand is it just…a litlle problem offset between nvidia and flatpack drivers?
But Its strange because actually, i think i have the same drivers.

dpkg --list |grep nvidia
ii  libnvidia-cfg1-525:amd64                525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA binary OpenGL/GLX configuration library
ii  libnvidia-common-525                    525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       all          Shared files used by the NVIDIA libraries
ii  libnvidia-compute-525:amd64             525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA libcompute package
ii  libnvidia-compute-525:i386              525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       i386         NVIDIA libcompute package
ii  libnvidia-decode-525:amd64              525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA Video Decoding runtime libraries
ii  libnvidia-decode-525:i386               525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       i386         NVIDIA Video Decoding runtime libraries
ii  libnvidia-egl-wayland1:amd64            1:1.1.9-1.1                                                     amd64        Wayland EGL External Platform library -- shared library
ii  libnvidia-encode-525:amd64              525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVENC Video Encoding runtime library
ii  libnvidia-encode-525:i386               525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       i386         NVENC Video Encoding runtime library
ii  libnvidia-extra-525:amd64               525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        Extra libraries for the NVIDIA driver
ii  libnvidia-fbc1-525:amd64                525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA OpenGL-based Framebuffer Capture runtime library
ii  libnvidia-fbc1-525:i386                 525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       i386         NVIDIA OpenGL-based Framebuffer Capture runtime library
ii  libnvidia-gl-525:amd64                  525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA OpenGL/GLX/EGL/GLES GLVND libraries and Vulkan ICD
ii  libnvidia-gl-525:i386                   525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       i386         NVIDIA OpenGL/GLX/EGL/GLES GLVND libraries and Vulkan ICD
ii  nvidia-compute-utils-525                525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA compute utilities
ii  nvidia-dkms-525                         525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA DKMS package
ii  nvidia-driver-525                       525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA driver metapackage
ii  nvidia-kernel-common-525                525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        Shared files used with the kernel module
ii  nvidia-kernel-source-525                525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA kernel source package
ii  nvidia-settings                         510.47.03-0ubuntu1                                              amd64        Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
ii  nvidia-utils-525                        525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA driver support binaries
ii  screen-resolution-extra                 0.18.2                                                          all          Extension for the nvidia-settings control panel
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-525           525.116.04-1pop0~1686770941~22.04~ac14717                       amd64        NVIDIA binary Xorg driver


flatpak list |grep nvidia
nvidia-525-116-04	org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-525-116-04		1.4	user
nvidia-525-89-02	org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-525-89-02		1.4	user
nvidia-525-116-04	org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-525-116-04		1.4	user
nvidia-525-89-02	org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-525-89-02		1.4	user

If I understand, i need to Re install mannuelly ? (by terminal )

Yes so you don’t have an issue since your flatpak Nvidia driver(525.116.04) matches the system Nvidia driver(also 525.116.04). If it were a problem you would have a mismatch between those two and you wouldn’t be able to run any games on Lutris or Steam that would require the Nvidia drivers.

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Thank you.
So I still do not know why the “recent” games do not run correctly on m’y computer.

Another mystery to solve, but at least I have a false lead ! :slight_smile:

I do not really remember what I have installed it on, I will come back to this later, but if I reinstall will it remove my library? Or is there an option to keep it?

earthmapspictures@H-E-R-A-N:~$ lutris
2023-08-19 22:44:48,113: Starting Lutris 0.5.12
2023-08-19 22:44:48,186: Using NVIDIA drivers 525.125.06 for x86_64
2023-08-19 22:44:48,186: GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030
2023-08-19 22:44:48,186: GPU: 10DE:1D01 1458:3767 (nvidia drivers)
2023-08-19 22:44:48,186: GPU: 1002:6779 1002:0000 (radeon drivers)
DRM kernel driver ‘nvidia-drm’ in use. NVK requires nouveau.
Segmentation fault (core dumped)