this could be totally my fault xubuntu 17.04 has been pretty buggy going to try a different distro see if it has the same issues if someone wants to test my unpublished installer i am going to submit it to moderation please make sure to mark it untested until i post in that forum that it’s been testing
well it was that and that the stable mesa ppa kept uninstalling wine staging for whatever reasons which bugged wine itself like in one instance it rolled back to version 2.0 but still showed 2.11 as installed so it’s a xubuntu issue went back to solus and seems to be working fine and getting prepped to test the game i was trying to get working